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EP Election Board Says No to Good Candidacy
Petitions cited for lack of valid signatures, inappropriate binding
In less than five minutes Thursday morning, Evergreen Park election officials slammed the door on the mayoral candidacy of Shawn Good.
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The Village of Evergreen Park Municipal Officers Electoral Board, consisting of Trustees Carol Kyle and Jerome Bosch, and Village Clerk Catherine Aparo, with representation by attorney Joseph Cainkar, voted unanimously to remove Good’s name from the April 9 election ballot.
Good is challenging incumbent Mayor James Sexton, the only contested race in the upcoming municipal election, other than a library board race for two-year trustee.
The action came after two village residents, Geoffrey Layhe and Anthony Yukich, filed an objection regarding Good’s petitions for not being securely bound when turned in to the village and for lacking the proper number of valid signatures. To appear on the ballot, 66 valid signatures are needed.
Good’s petitions were viewed by a Cook County Clerk records examiner on Jan. 11, who determined that Good fell short of the number of valid signatures needed by 16. Several signatures were ruled invalid for not being genuine; others were discounted because the signer was not registered to vote at the address listed.
The Electoral Board met previously on Jan. 10, with Burton Odelson, founding partner of Odelson and Sterk, representing both Yukich and Layne. His associate, Matthew Welch, represented the objectors this time around. Shawn Good represented herself both times, though after the meeting said she had sought legal advice.
Regardless of the outcome of today’s ruling, Good said she is not through challenging the mayor. She told the Patch she has several options to consider, including a write-in candidacy.
Tracie Mary
2:20 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Thanks for the update. Sorry to hear Mrs. Good. Don't give up.
ep concerned
2:54 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Thanks to the Electoral Board for waking a "sleeping giant." This fight is far from over!
evergreenlove13
5:10 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Can this "sleeping giant" please inform all of us about the signatures and why the Cook County Clerk records examiner determined that Good fell short of the number of valid signatures needed by 16. Several signatures were ruled invalid for not being genuine; others were discounted because the was not registered to vote at the address listed?
Unknown
3:17 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
What a joke! The EP electoral board and the people who filed the objection are nothing more than Sextons' puppets. Of course they are going to not allow a village election to have more than one candidate!!! When are the people in Evergreen Park going to get rid of those drunken clowns? I'm so glad we moved out of this village!
Kay
3:36 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
And we are very glad you moved too!! Did u see the part that the County Clerk records examiner stated she didn't have enough valid petitions. They have nothing to do with Evergreen Park and thank God neither do you and more
ep concerned
3:43 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
So if u saw affadavits saying those people signed would you be so critical Kay?
George Heitz
3:46 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Sounds like politics as usual in Illinois, what a shame!
Kay
3:48 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
If the Cook County Board of Elections approves that's who's important not me. My say so means nothing.
ep concerned
4:11 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
That's how much you know about the election process. End of discussion
TM
4:11 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Cook County Clerk reviewed the petitions and found unsatisfactory. So it's not all the village people. I certainly don't want someone running this village if they can't follow directions that registered voters need to sign the petition, not just her friends.
TM
4:13 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
Okay I just watched the video and she doesn't even seem to know what she's talking about.
CQ
7:37 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
Listen to you, weren't you claiming to be so upright the other day? So righteous, you were. She enumerated at least 3 avenues to cure the situation. Maybe you don't know what your talking about.
TM
8:35 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
Well good morning CQ, don't forget your coffee today so you aren't so cranky. ;)
CQ
8:50 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
Never drank a cup of coffee in my entire life, but thanks for the tip. Maybe you should lay off...You seem a little high strung. Sorry, just had to point out that you don't practice what you preach, you were so adamant in your judgments yesterday!!! Enjoy your caffeine :)
TM
9:27 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
And people call Sexton a bully!? HA Go back and read your comment CQ, you harass people. Oh and I think there was something about you being a hypocrite...........have a good day
CQ
9:43 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
Nope...just don't like the rudeness towards this woman. Can't sit back and watch a fellow citizen with good intentions get chewed up and spit out. Thanks for giving me the opportunity to call it out...have fun with your next lame response...your too easy and predictable!
evergreenlove13
9:50 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
CQ, but you can sit back and watch Mayor Sexton (also a fellow citizen with good intentions) get disrespected by others on this and other posts and you say nothing? As others have said that is very hypocrtical.
CQ
11:51 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
I really wish Sexton welcomed his challenger, if only to keep the process open. I never had a problem with him, thought him very personable but have slowly lost respect for him over his handling of several village affairs. I have witnesses what others have stated, don't consider his outbursts at village meetings towards community members as "being in command". I am not shocked that this has been commented on and certainly would not defend him for it. Now if some one calls him incompetent for not knowing a rec dept exists when it's evident he knows that, I will gladly stick up for him.
Susie
4:17 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
I helped out with several elections and everyone knows (or should know) that if they call for 66 signatures, you give them at least 100 for cases like this. Oftentimes, people don't realize that they're not registered to vote or may be registered to a different address. I would love to see someone run up against Mayor Sexton but a rule is a rule.
Tracie Mary
5:19 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013
TM, I just watched the video. She seemed very knowledgeable. Maybe a bit nervous, infront of the camera, who wouldn't be. She's living and learning and trying.
CQ
7:45 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
She seems like a breath of fresh air. It's a sad scene, her standing next to a wanna be high powered attorney, Odelson and.....Cainkar who works at his Dad's law firm, third generation getting EPs business. He's awesome at flipping his hair during village meetings. I'm so comforted by the use of county records in the elimination tho, so reliable.
CQ
7:54 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
Associate of Odelson, I guess....
ep concerned
7:57 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
It ia A sad scene. Sounds like she still wants to run. I would say go for it. I would start with the businesses along 95th that he has bullied into doing what he says no matter what. This town needs an enema. Good ole boy politics just doesn't cut it now a days.
Unknown
8:38 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
Unfortunately, many, if not most, of the business owners are not EP residents, so they cannot vote in EP. If more residents were involved in politics, she could run as write-in candidate and have a chance at winning. Unfortunately, most of the newcomers to EP don't even know who the mayor is or where the Village Hall is located. Sad!
kp
8:31 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
It is sad that no one can run against Sexton. How much did this cost EP residents and what is he soo afraid of . . losing. He seems to have control of everyone in town. This was a technicality, and probably not true, that was found by high paying Odelson. Disgusting. Keep up the fight Shawn!!
TM
8:35 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
It was found by the Cook County Clerks office.
CQ
9:04 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
Before it got to the clerks office, someone had to actually be enough of a loser to hire an attorney and challenge the petitions.....then the review is subject to cook county voter roll record keeping (no further explanation needed here) and some vague criteria described as a genuine signature. You got it Kells, anyone convinced that this is a valid process must of fell of the turnip truck. I think a very valid point has been brought forward...what are they afraid of?
evergreenlove13
9:11 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
Exactly TM, are people seriously trying to say that the Cook County Clerks Office is in the bag for the Mayor of EP? It wasn't a technicality, she didn't have the proper stuff. Mistakes happen. To blame it on the Mayor or the County Clerk is silly. Next time you want to run just have all your ducks in order.
CQ
9:21 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
So naive...this is one of the reasons why the political arena remains so corrupt.
Ted
8:56 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
Kells- A technicality? She didn't get enough valid petitions to get on the ballot! Maybe she didn't get enough because she started collecting them 2 days before they were due. Sounds like she is the type of organized and competent leader I would want running my town. Kells if you are so smart why didn't you throw your name in? You know everything that is wrong, but I haven't heard many solutions! So get out of your mom's basement and do something. Otherwise reveal who you are or shut up.
evergreenlove13
9:12 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
^^^^^Exactly Ted!!!!!!!
TM
9:29 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
Completely agree Ted, and this Kells person doesn't back up what they say on any these articles.
Susie
9:40 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
When I'm applying for a position and they ask me to bring my id, resume, birth certificate and social security card, I follow their instructions and do so because I REALLY want that job. Before I leave, I make sure that I have everything that they asked for. I follow the simple directions that were instructed. I don't think Mrs. Good followed the simple directions when asked to get 66 VALID signatures. If I was Mrs. Good, I would have made sure to get a surplus of signatures so that if some came back invalid, I would have enough signatures to get on the ballot. It's very simple.
CQ
9:49 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
Well you wouldn't need all that documentation to get a job in cook county, just a political connection.
EPResident80
10:52 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
Aw, CQ. You're the best, I mean how many people have called you out. Half a dozen, maybe more if I look at your previous comments. Way to take advantage of the anonymity of the comment section. Now, before you get on your high horse about the fact that I, along with others, use the same anonymity; most of us just state our opinions and that's it. You, on the other hand, degrade and belittle others for their opinions while being hypocritical (I proved it in earlier stories). I hope the Patch changes to the Facebook format so anonymity disappears. The only question when this happens is what are you going to do with all your free time?
CQ
11:34 am on Friday, January 18, 2013
No "wow" this time? I believe my original post was in response to you asking the voters to determine this woman's competence relative to a quote you misunderstood. It's apparent you really can't handle it, that's about the only thing you have proved. BTW, fb is pretty self involved, I'm not surprised you'd want that format. Have fun exchanging your repetitive commentary with your little group of blogger friends.
ep concerned
3:52 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
The fact of the matter is that if she decides to write in Im voting for her. She seems very personable unlike the current administration. This village needs new blood. Look at all those people making over 100k there. No wonder the Village has no money........
ep concerned
3:56 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
I would like to hear any ideas she might have opening Aqua again.....What a shame we lost our community pool. But now we have a DART GOLF Course? Really? Who ya crappin?
evergreenlove13
4:40 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
EP concerned, If I am correct Aqua was lost because of the owners stupidity of taking out a loan that they couldn't afford. A private citizen bought the property not the village. As Kay mentioned this town is always in the "black" when it comes to our finances and not in the "red" like the majority of our neighboring towns. One more thing as far as the voting goes, she doesn't choose to write herself in, you have to do that in voting booth.
Kay
4:01 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
The village has no money? EP is one of the only towns around with a healthy surplus. That is because of the responsible people running this town. As usual don't have a clue. Feel free to look it up. I have absolutely no problem with everyone voicing their opinions but at least back it up with some factual information.
ep concerned
4:22 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
EP has no money because there are way too many making big dollar while they watch the community suffer while they visit their summer homes. I say give power to the village. They need a pool! Start with the guy who owns the plumbing company and built the new house on 99th street. Smh
evergreenlove13
4:41 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
Put the green eyed monster away.
Nancy Prior
4:26 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
Kay, look it up for us - who is the Village Treasurer?
evergreenlove13
4:55 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
EP Treasurer is John Sawyers.
Kay
5:48 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
I'm not sure how the community is suffering. I live here am not suffering. I have a family and live on one income. I can get everything. I need in evergreen Park. In fact I did all my Christmas shopping in EP. Didn't spend a dollar outside the village. That way I know I'm spending my money where I live. Way to many vague statements with nothing to back it up. I made a statement that the village is fiscally stable and I can back that up. Nancy the treasurer is John Sawyers and your point is??
Days Gonebye
6:22 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
I don't live in EP anymore so I am up front about being a well intentioned outsider. It's not good to have one party rule particularly when they are unopposed. It's times like this when that is so apparent as the municipal officers board are all of the same (only) party and the "residents" filing objections are longtime officers in that only party. Ms. Good is to be applauded for her efforts and good intentions. However, 66 signatures is not a lot and as Ringo Starr said, you have to pay your dues if you want to sing the blues. Pay your dues: get 150 signatures and then breath easy when some are disqualified. While one party rule is bad it isn't the fault of the one party but those who don't challenge them. In fairness, the town is being run pretty well, all things considered.
ep concerned
6:24 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
The point being that these people are getting very good salaries for what? Surely there is waste there that needs to be cut. And what about the village bullying these senior citizens? Babe Ahern ring a bell? What about the lady that owns the nail spa? The village trying to take their property eminent domain? I wonder if they tried the same tactics with that dr at 95th and Hamlin where the Petes parking lot now sits. It wouldn't surprise me......
evergreenlove13
6:53 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
What do you mean by "these people are getting very good salaries for what"? They have a job, they do it and they collect a paycheck just like you or I do when we go to work.
If you ever met Babe you would know what a strong woman (whether you agreed with her or not) she was and I can assure you she never allowed herself to be bullied by anyone!!!
TM
6:26 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
Kay I was wondering what the point of that was too! Maybe Nancy wants to give him a call and tell him the village has no money. And Babe Ahern refused for YEARS to sell that property to Evergreen Park
ep concerned
6:38 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
Why should anyone sell their property if they don't want to? Where do we live? Nazi Germany? Smh (shake my head)
evergreenlove13
6:47 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
ep concerned, you really think it is appropriate to compare EP with Nazi Germany? You are just throwing crazy comments out there without backing them up. There is nothing wrong with having a healthy debate but it seems you are incapable of doing such.
Ted
6:53 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
Nancy? Come on Nancy. What was the awesome point you were going to prove when you found out that John Sawyers was the Village Treasurer? Please enlighten us. I will give you a little bit of credit because at least you put your name behind your idiotic points. More then I can say for the Mt. Rushmore of stupid- Kells, ep concerned, CG, and the really informed "unknown". Back up your facts and if all of you were so "concerned" then maybe you guys should tell us all what you have done to make the village better. Or maybe just give us a few ideas? Whole foods? Neiman Marcus? Didn't Southtown paint just move to Orland? Last time I checked they have a few big boxes out there. How is a mom and pop paint store going to survive out there? Oh I have a good idea. Instead of Walgreens they should put a Gibsons steakhouse at 95th and Pulaski! EP concerned are you going to pay for a steak at Gibsons? Whole foods would be out of business in 6 months because people would rather pay cheaper prices at Pete's. At the very least come up with some solutions. We would all love to hear them.
evergreenlove13
6:58 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
^^^^^^^^as I have previously said, exactly Ted!!!!!!!
CQ
8:30 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
The point of a challenger in an election, Ted, is that the two candidates lay out their platforms and agendas for the future. Sustainability, expansion, improvements, ideas for obtaining funds for the village, etc. Debates, town hall meeting allow the public to become involved in the process. Then, the guess what, we the voter cast our ballots for the best vision. I think the people you are insulting here, simply want that basic right. The challenge against Good makes the current admin look pathetic, as if we don't see the political preservation going on here. And btw, Mt. Everest is the tallest mountain in the world....Mt. Rushmore is the presidential mountain...not that I'm calling you stupid or anything.
ep concerned
7:54 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
Well Ted I'm fairly sure I could buy Gibsons. And no I'm not comparing ep to nazi Germany. Its just another case of bullying around here. Time for change! I say clean house up there. The people have had enough. Face the facts, there is intrest in others besides the current Mayor apparently. I for one plan to give this other canidate a fair shake. Anyone else?
Kay
7:56 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
EPconcerned u just made me laugh out loud. You obviously didn't know Babe. Not one day of her very long life was spent being bullied. Very much the opposite she was awesome at doing the bullying. No one has to sell their land if they don't point in check. But don't complain when she sells it to how she want to and you don't like the outcome. Still have yet to hear what's wrong with EP.
CQ
8:51 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
The Village filed eminent domain to obtain the property. This litigation lasted 5 to 7 years, I believe, which I'm sure was no small stess for a woman of her age. Once the case went before a jury, EP lost big time...the jury looked at the situation as bullying an old woman and not only ruled against the village, but awarded costs to the tune of some major $$$.
ep concerned
8:37 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
What don't you get about it being HER land and not the Villages?
ep concerned
8:44 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
Babe was bullying? You make me laugh. I see a pattern of the Mayor picking on elderly women. Babe, Mrs Priors mother, and The Sisters of Mercy.
Kay
9:21 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
Haha Ep concerned. You are too funny!! You again obviously don't know Babe. I recall many a winters of her screaming and throwing things at small children sledding. That's a sweet elderly lady. Yes? As far as Ms.Priors mother I don't know the details but I doubt that the Mayor bullied her either. As far as the Sisters of Mercy go a very large group of EP citizens came forth with their concerns of the building so near so many schools. That's the job of a Mayor to stand up for their citizens. This continues the most ridiculous conversation. You go round and round in circles with no fact just babble.
Tcp
5:19 pm on Sunday, January 20, 2013
Kay - sledding on private property is tresspassing. Allow me to come and play all over your lawn and see your reaction.
ep concerned
9:49 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
You sound like the Village Clerk.
ep concerned
9:50 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
Still no reason to try and steal her land. HER LAND.....
Tcp
5:22 pm on Sunday, January 20, 2013
the cost 10 million
Kay
10:20 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
Not the Village Clerk nor do I work for the Village. I'm a mom and as stated before don't have a job. I raise my children and appreciate that I can do this in an amazing community where I feel safe, have wonderful neighbors, and great places to take my children. For that reason I stand up for the administration that has made EP this way. I will continue to support this community because I love my life here as do my children. End of my arguing because it's not worth my time. I have taken time away from my family wasting time to try and have you clarify your position to no avail. Good luck to Mayor Sexton keep up the wonderful job!!
Ted
10:49 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
CQ you aren't really that dense? I didnt say anything about the tallest mountain. Last time I checked there are four presidents on Mt. Rushmore? I said you, Kells, ep concerned, and unknown were on the Mt. Rushmore of bad comments! EP concerned you must have never drove by that wonderful piece of property Babe called a golf course and I know you never walked in the clubhouse that was falling apart and saw her cursing her employees. You are either naive or clueless. Probably both! If you knew anyone who ever dealt with Babe Ahern then you would know she put the B in Bully! Even at 96 no one pushed her around. That golf course was over grown and poorly kept up. She hadn't invested a dollar in it in 25 years. Just because a bunch of cry baby Beverly(Chiresident) residents complained about the development on that eye sore she called a golf course EP residents shouldnt look at it as a bad thing. The stores there will bring in millions in tax revenue to Evergreen Park. Not to mention there are some nice options for shopping and eating. In my opinion better then an over priced run down golf course! Also don't forget that frail old bullied woman sold the property before she died and if you go back and look at the records she sold it at a price much closer to what the village valued it at and not what the court or sweet ole Babe valued it at! Get a clue EP concerned. I don't think you have a clue about anything you are talking about. Again jump in and help if you are so smart!
CQ
8:33 am on Saturday, January 19, 2013
One would think if you were proclaiming the enormity of other people's stupidity, you'd use the annology of the world's biggest mountain....not the presidential mountain. I guess your just not that swift. If not set in stone, Im sure the faces on the presidential mountain would be disdain for the chicken little political preservation move in EP this week. That's the difference between leaders and politicians, I guess.
Ed
11:50 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013
Ted how about you live next to the crap coming from those stores. Had I known they would have been coming I would not have moved here. By the way the millions of dollars in taxes you speak of ask your great mayor about the 10 year tax breaks they receive for building here. Not angry at you but know your facts this mall is more than an eyesore. Additionally I've been a resident for over 20 years my dad grew up in the village so hum think I know a little about EP.
evergreenlove13
2:07 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013
What a comment Ed, I think we can all assume what you mean by "crap". If it means what I think it means shame on you!
Ted
1:04 am on Saturday, January 19, 2013
Ed- I don't understand your point? In this economy aren't the jobs being created a good thing? The crap that comes from those stores? Men and women going to Menards to improve their properties or construction crews going to Menards to improve infrastructure etc. If you had any clue or business background you would know sometimes you have to spend $$ to make $$. Even with tax breaks the village will take in about 4 million per year in sales and real estate taxes. Just because you have lived here for 20 years doesn't make you any more informed. Finally, please explain to all of us what kind of crap comes from Menards or Meijer? All of the Menards and Meijers I have ever been to just have hard working everyday people spending their $$ there. Do you want to expound on your original point? Please do
ep concerned
7:26 am on Saturday, January 19, 2013
Ted, please oh please stop picking on old women. Especially old dead women. What about those tax breaks that meijers and menards? What kind of breaks did the small bussiness owner along 95th get? The answer would be zero. I had heard that Petes got an even bigger tax break while businesses like Barraccos and Southtown paint got zilch! Jobs? Brings in jobs? Hahaha. Low paying jobs that ep residents don't get. Unless you're a Trustees daughter and get to work at Petes.
evergreenlove13
2:13 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013
You have no clue what you are talking about when speaking of the small businesses on 95th st. and the remainder of this town.
You have still yet to respond to any of my above statements about explaining yourself. You are content in just spewing ridiculous statements that any sane individual knows isn't true.
It amazes me that you are criticizing these jobs by saying they are low paying. Many people would love to have one of these jobs.
Who are you to say that a trustees daughter isn't allowed to have a job in this town?
ep concerned
8:24 am on Saturday, January 19, 2013
Or if you're an illegal alien you got a job there. The mayor touted job creation but I'm sure a lot the workers there don't even live here in the village.
evergreenlove13
2:16 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013
Your comment about "illegal alien" just shows the type of person you are. You don't know the people who work there so until you have facts that prove your statement you should really keep your mouth closed.
You are sure a lot of the workers don't live in ep, maybe you should get stats to back that up.
Ted
8:41 am on Saturday, January 19, 2013
Really EP concerned get a clue! You must not have known Babe and I have never bullied anyone in my life. Southtown paint moved to Orland Park where I'm sure they are getting taxes breaks( ha ha). Like the previous post sometimes you need to give some concessions to your"big box" stores that in turn produce real estate and sales taxes that help the village to do other things. Have you been by Yukich fields lately, the ice rink, I can go on and on. But it is pointless because you will bring up some idiotic point about a trustees daughter having a job at Pete's. Why don't you just say who's daughter it is. Or about someone supposedly being bullied! Did you go check the records and see how much the great Ms Ahern sold her property for? Almost exactly what the village valued it at. The court that ruled in her favor that is was worth 25 million was more of a joke then anything! EP concerned sounds to me like you are just a bitter whiner and complainer. Since you spend so much time on this blog- why don't you reveal yourself and give us all your platform for 2017. Put some people together to sweep this administration out. But you won't because cowards blog instead of rolling their sleeves up to be part of the solution. If this village is that bad? Which it clearly isn't. Wake up concerned
Ted
8:46 am on Saturday, January 19, 2013
Concerned- You are so silly it's funny! Petes has illegal aliens working there? Did you ever go to Evergreen golf course. I believe all of the workers there were EP residents. Wake up
EP Parent
10:05 am on Saturday, January 19, 2013
My how we've all digressed. Back to the original story, I do think that it would have been nice to have an alternative mayoral candidate. I think it does look petty that a couple of (reportedly cohorts) of Mayor Sexton to have filed the protest. It does make one wonder what they are afraid of. On the other hand Mrs Good should have obtained more signatures because as stated by others, this is not an unusual protest in Illinois politics. I am happy with Mayor Sexton, but having a choice for any elected office is never a bad thing.
CQ
10:18 am on Saturday, January 19, 2013
Lesson learned Ms. Good...learn to be a cut throat, bad ass wanna be, learn to out maneuver your opponent with chicken little tactics, learn that this is way more important than substantive issues,,,,and there you go, your in the game!
Concerned
1:02 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013
Thank you, CQ, for stating what I would want to on here - I love reading your comments. And hello to EP Concerned... We're not the same person, but look like we can agree on some things. It's too bad we won't be able to have a real election. All of those who actively worked to prevent one should be ashamed of themselves. As for EP thriving... Here are a few facts... Our population has decreased by almost 5% over the last decade according to city-data.com, but I've heard from town officials that its closer to a 15% decline. Also, according to realty track, there are over 300 homes in pre-forclosure, up for auction or bank owned. That doesn't even count people like my neighbor who just had a short sale and got a third of what they paid for their home 10 years ago. Don't get me wrong... I really like living in EP, and chose to move here for a lot of the reasons Kay has mentioned. That's why I get concerned when I see the value of my house fall by half, my taxes increase by 50%, and my government spending my tax dollars in ways I don't agree with. All to protect their little fiefdom...
evergreenlove13
2:22 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013
EP cannot keep people who do not know how to pay their bills and keep their houses from moving into here. Your house value did not fall because of anything our LOCAL government did. Your LOCAL government isn't the reason people are not buying houses at this moment in time. I am with you that I do not live my FEDERAL & STATE government is spending my tax dollars. I do however appreciate the fiscal responsibility my LOCAL EP government spend and save my tax dollars.
Tcp
5:52 pm on Sunday, January 20, 2013
Concerned - like many other towns there are new banks on alsmost every corner. Chase Bank has gambled away 6 million dollars and they are getting a fourth bailout (it wasn't just one) for their irresponsibility. If I acted like Chase Bank, I would be foreclosed upon. In addition, as many families have left EP for greener pastures, the generations behind these two and they are: 1.) The Conservatives 2.) Baby Boomers, is smaller known as Gen-X. Pointedly, as more retirement homes are being built, there is simply less of a demand for residential homes. The indicator on homes is driving up the tax base even though house prices are falling. You can go on to Cook County and file an appeal. We did and they reduced it by $1,000.00 and that was only the first appeal, we could have done a second. In towns like Crestwood there is residential tax relief due to the many businesses.
Concerned
8:25 pm on Thursday, January 24, 2013
Evergreenlove13, you can't have it both ways. You can't say that out town is thriving financially, and yet have these numbers of forclosures to deal with. Forclosures, whether because someone over-borrowed, or got a divorce, or had to move for a job, are not good for the price of your house, or my house. I'm glad to hear the town has money in the bank, but look where that recently got the D124 school board. People see money, and they put their hand out. How is EP going to fare when Springfield finally pushes the pension problem down to the school districts? You know that there are no laws that allow states to declare bankruptcy (which IL is), yet there are laws allowing municipalities and school districts to declare bankruptcy. Of course I understand the difference between local, township, county, state, and federal taxes (of which, I pay them all), but I'm still not happy with the way EP, specificially under the leadership of Mayor Sexton, has used my town's revenue, in situations such as tax deals with big box stores and in dealings with the EP Golf Course. I'll say it again... it's a shame we can't have a real debate in the public square on the real issues that face out town, which we all care about greatly.
evergreenlove13
8:43 am on Friday, January 25, 2013
Concerned, as I was saying.....It is not the Village of Evergreen Park's fault if people are forclosing on their homes. I was stating that your homes value didn't fall because of anything Mayor Sexton did. You home value fell because of your fellow citizens who forclosed on their homes.
And YES my town can be financially sound (with money in the bank) even if people are forclosing. That is why it is always nice to have that extra money there.
Just because people put their hand out doesn't mean that Mayor Sexton is going to give it to them. In my opinion what D124 did was wrong, they should make sure they always continue to have a surplus of money for when Illinois stops paying their part of the bills. (you and I agree on everything in regards to D124 and the state of Illinois and I would guess the federal government) We just disagree with our local government.
There can be real debates or questions asked, you just have to go to meetings and ask.
I personally don't feel that Ms. Good would be more conservative with the villages money than Mayor Sexton. I go off of the fact that she didn't do enough research on the process of running for mayor. So I tend to think she won't do enough research on the right ways to spend the money.
ep concerned
1:29 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013
That's why they need to go. Just look at all the people making over 100k. While some visit their summer home others face forclosure. Shame!
evergreenlove13
2:19 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013
There is that green eyed monster again. Jealousy gets you nowhere in life. I would rather not get started on the stupidity of people facing foreclosure.
ep concerned
1:32 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013
Maybe they are hiding something.....
evergreenlove13
2:23 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013
What would that be?
Concerned
2:30 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013
It is my understanding that a few years separated the town valuing the golf course, and when it was sold, and that was when the "financial meltdown" occurred. The thrust of her victorious 25 million dollar lawsuit against the town was because their interference caused her to lose a sale for a much higher price. And what exactly does "the stupidity of those facing foreclosure" mean? EP is suffering along with the rest of the country, but they seem to be doing so in denial.
Tcp
11:12 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013
Mrs. Good seems very responsible! Maybe she just wants a little change in this town! Is there anything wrong with that? Can this town handle competition or...?
Nancy Prior
11:42 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013
Hey Ted, Kay and the rest of you who think I have nothing better to do than invent stories - this is what Mayor Sexton has done to my parents / mom - (The Reporter newspaper May 2011 - did a story for us front page)!
analogy: The Mayor wants your house, but it's not for sale. TOO BAD! The Mayor forces you to keep your house vacant for two years and without heat! BUT......you are allowed to visit your property anytime you want (lucky you) - you can even unlock the door walk around inside BUT you better not try fixing anything because you were given a bogus stop work order from the Mayor's sidekick Geoffrey Layhe. Oh by the way, keep paying those property taxes which are close to $30,000 dollars or the Mayor will steal your property!
I filed in June 2010 to open 2 new businesses in the building - the Mayor lost both my applications. (I have the Village meeting minutes as proof). Finally, November 5, 2012 - the Mayor approves my Business Licenses. I had to hire an Architect to draw 4 ceiling fans and some florescent lights to submit to get a Permit, .......BUT, mysteriously there are all kinds of problems I am required to fix because the building was never inspected properly when Nail Spa and US Cellular were tenants!!!
I have spent the past week cutting up the floor because the pipes when US Cellular moved in were NEVER capped off - instead I have Jewel plastic bags shoved into the sewage pipes which caused a leak and rotted the wood under my new floor tile!
Nancy Prior
12:03 am on Sunday, January 20, 2013
I would like to see any of you fight for something that's RIGHT! No one should be allowed to abuse Senior Citizens or people in General just because they own something that the Mayor wants! It's UN-American!
Oh I forgot - we also pay roughly $60 dollars a month for water that we cannot use! Nail Spa left the building infested with mice and huge black cockroaches, but he got a new Business License (no problem) to move down the street in front of Little Company of Mary Hospital! It's pathetic.............the mess I have had to clean up because Village Inspectors got paid for a job they were obviously NOT doing!
Let Shawn Good run for Mayor!
Nancy Prior
1:26 am on Sunday, January 20, 2013
This is for anyone - who doesn't have a clue how this Village operates.
Nail Spa duct taped the circuit breakers "ON" (I have the breakers with the silver tape on them as proof). I hire ARC 1 Electric in Hickory Hills to replace the electric panel. ARC 1 website says they have been in business for 13 years and when we meet the owner, Mike Motola, he tells my mom and I he's already licensed in EP. We hire him in February 2011 to replace the panel. Bottomline - ARC 1 replaces the electric panel WITHOUT a Permit. (That's when I was young and naive - get the Permit BEFORE anyone does any work especially if your last name is PRIOR and the Mayor wants your building).
EP issues me a ticket for $150 dollars and issues ARC 1 a ticket for $300 dollars. We go to Court June 2011 - I pay my $150 dollar ticket, BUT Geoffrey Layhe came to court just for me to tell the Judge ARC 1 didn't have to pay his ticket because "He didn't mean to do the work without a Permit"! And - "Hugh McGivern, Electrical Inspector, said he does not have to pay"!
We sue ARC1 in small claims Bridgeview - oops Mandatory Arbitration - ARC 1 tells the Arbitrators TWICE, "I did exactly what they told me to do"! (He's referring to the Village). I brought and paid another Electrician as an expert witness to list the problems with the Electric Panel and testify the panel change is NOT completed!
Again mysteriously...............ARC 1 is found NOT guilty!
IGA
11:17 pm on Wednesday, January 23, 2013
Alright everybody, calm down. You all speak of a great neighborhood and people, then please put those claws away and let's all start acting like it. Ms Good is obviously green to the political scene, not just in EP, but everywhere in the state. Many politicians fumble over paperwork and such the first time out. Major high five for her to take the time out and run. I would love to say that EP will bend such a goofy rule and allow her to run, but lets be real here. In ANY line of work, if you can stop the threat of someone possibly even considering taking your job, you too would use all rules and sources to halt it. Ms. good knows better for next time. Personally, they would have been better off letting her run, the story would have been minuscule at best. But it has the potential of snowballing in years to come, and may end up creating a bigger threat in the long run. As far as your likes and dislikes of the way the town is run and the people who run it, be like Ms Good and change it. There are pros and cons to these large stores, and here's hoping the mayor will do what's right and pass a tax break on to residences in the village from the money we will be taking in. It will increase home buying hopefully. Every village town etc across this country has it's flaws, cliques, and bad decisions that form over time due to staleness and repetitiveness.
IGA
11:18 pm on Wednesday, January 23, 2013
Ms prior, I am sure there are two sides to your story, but no matter what they are, a peaceful and fair agreement should be made between you and the village. I miss the village I grew up in of Joe Packeys, Dairy Queen, Butera, heck the Martinique! But times change and we all don't adapt well to change. Try to look at the pros, we aren't Sauk village or the defunct crestwood or many others. Our streets are
IGA
11:18 pm on Wednesday, January 23, 2013
safe, and not all the storefronts are vacant. But there are cons as well. Preferential treatment to businesses, alleged disrespect to homeowners and some businesses, lack of indoor rec facilities for residents. We need a pool, we need an indoor playground for children in the winter. Take monies and purchase racquet and fitness and give it to the people to enjoy. Have a Xmas celebration in the center of town and
IGA
11:19 pm on Wednesday, January 23, 2013
encourage small businesses to open their doors. Lessen permit fees on residents and raise them on commercial to encourage homeowners to use Menards to improve their homes. Theiris so much good here people, if you have an issue, build your voice of one, and bring them to meetings. I hope they realize the correcting all of your issue will only strengthen the community, improving word of mouth and helping to bring
IGA
11:19 pm on Wednesday, January 23, 2013
more good people into this great neighborhood. I just recently moved out of evergreen , but my parents live there and will continue to. If you all think I can win a mayoral race let me know, and I will move back in with them. But I will need 66 signatures, maybe 67 to be safe. Haha. keep in mind the success of common, not personal good. Things work better with that train of thought.