I was all set to be indignant about golf fees, given how often I use the Cook County courses, but I suppose I can absorb an extra buck or two if I lose one fewer ProV. :-)

So that means all the ammo and guns coming from mexico don't pay. Back to taxing the honest people instead of cutting things. Why do we have to cut with families but the goverment don't? Oh and they forgot about beer and all alcohol which breaks up familes and does alot of damage. Think its time to clean house when we vote.

They sure are making cigarettes a lucrative business for the street/crime... I'm not a smoker and quite honestly can't stand it, but a carton is becoming gold.
I'm also curious about this ammo tax? Better gun and ammo laws will do more than a tax. So what will target practice cost now?
5$ for a death letter... That's pricless...!

I hope Toni has to pay the extra nickel for the bullit that she shoots herself in the foot with. It's not a long drive to do your shopping outside the city and county. All her nutty taxes won't do any good if there's no revenue to tax. goofball.

A few days ago, Preckwinkle said there would be no new taxes. Wonder what these are? But the pols don't have to worry about their expenses or tax increases cause we( the taxpayer) can pay for them and the gangbangers who don't work.

I don't see a problem with these taxes at all. Add alcohol and you got it perfect.

Cook County and Chicago have twice the number of aldermen as LA or NY
Before another tax,,, CUT the stipends, salaries, pensions, perks , staffs , cars, et al of all commissioners , elected and appointed government employeess
NO PATRONAGE , NEPOTISM, ,,,, and lets see how their raises, bonuses and contributions to their health care compares with the THE PEOPLE THEY ARE SUPPOSE TO SERVE

five freekin dollars for a "confirmation of death" letter?? I'll give my neighbor TEN dollars ahead of time to stick a fork in me and say "yep, he's done" rather than give her the five.

OK. A high tax was put on cigarettes some years back, supposedly for the health and well being of everyone and anyone. So smokers, who were outraged, stopped or tried to stop smoking. Guess what, then we needed more money, so they'll just tax other things to make up the difference! Warning not smoking maybe hazardous to your wallet.

5 cents on every bullet will bring in a fortune lol ,soon they will run out of people to shoot at lol

someone tell me how this woman got this job . I remember when she got in and laid off a lot of workers then hired her own gang in and gave them all raises .

QUESTION has anyone seen this pastor that supposely walked from La to NY ? How is it possible he can still be as fat as he is ?

It's officially gone from silly to sublime. There is more waste via patronage and departments trying to prop up budgets year to year than perhaps any county in the country. How about weeding some of that out?

i say we get rid of cook county all together what do we need cook county for?

Laughs. Plus it keeps the bad guys busy.

This will make everyone involved just go for a Sunday ride! To any County except Cook. Even traveling the distance to buy these items is still going to save you a substantial amount of money.. This is just going to drain more money from Cook! Why not get rid of all the family members of these politicians who collect paychecks. That would probably eliminate 40% of the padded Cook County payroll!! But, the best part of this is you don't have to replace any of them because they never did anything to begin with! Preckwinkle, clean up your own house! Stop destroying ours !

Don't like the new taxes? Don't gamble and quit smoking. Problem solved.

To me it appears as just another method by Libtards (Liberal-retards) to villify and tax individuals for legal choices they make. Cook Count officials as well as State demi-gods know so much more about how we should run our lives. There are few options when you have enforxed servitude, one is move, just pack up and get out. Another is to purchase those items being penalized at another location and let the county fail even more. Cook County and for that matter is doing everything in their power to drive business and working people out of the communities and the state. So, when revenue declines and they need more money to pad their pockets and fund their special intrest groups the answer is.... let's figure what else we don't like that we can tax and which taxes can we increase! What about looking at their own mess and cut some of their spending, works in my household.
While I am still alive, I will not give up on my rights as an American and I will keep my guns.
When a person is compelled to give up the fruits of their hard earned labors to be given to fund the benefit of those that refuse to be productive in kind, all of this at the point of a gun, is Tyrrany and Slavery in it's purest form.
As they said in the Old West, "I think it's time to get out of Dodge!"

Let's look at it from reality:

1) $1 per pack of cancer sticks (I mean cigarettes), in Chicago it's already $10 a pack, if you can afford $10 for 20 cigarettes, you clearly don't care how you spend your money

2) $800 on every video gambling machine. Unless you own a bar or crap hole that have these machines in them, not your problem

3) $25 on every gun SOLD. So if you already own one, not an issue for you. If you wanted to add to your collection cause you think you're Elmer Fudd, it's going to cost you a one time addition of $25

4) .05 cents on every bullet. Box of 50 comes to an additional $2.50

5) $5 on every confirmation of death letter from the morgue. I do not know if this the same as a death certificate or what exactly the letter is for.

So, most of these new taxes won't pertain to most of county residents.

Emily- I wouldn't necessarily call it running away. More like relocating to avoid the stink. If history serves me correctly, We the People left tyranny in England for much the same reasons. But, also tyranny and taxes followed on our heels. We went to war over it and won our freedom. I does not appear that there is any revolution on the horizon so going somewhere else is an option. Where, you ask? With Illinois having the highest business taxes and unreasonable socialist leaning public officials, almost any where is appealing. Another historical happenstance occured that caused the War of Northern Aggression (Civil War 1861-1865) The Southern States were well within their Constitutioal authority to Secede. I am not advocating secession but as an individual I do have those certain unalienable rights, endowed by our Creator, the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
To be continued.........

Continued..... Oh! By the way, we already pay for those uninsured inddegent and undocumented medical care. When a person goes to an emergency room or clinic they are not thrown into the streets, they are taken care of. We the People already are on the hook for their bills in the form of taxes, increased hospital costs and out of pocket co-payments. This leads to higher insurance premiums to cover all of that when we the insured us our hard earned and paid for benefits. Obama-care is just another National-Socialist tool to increase government control and government spending. The Health Care and Affordability Act is exactly NOT that. It reaches far beyond anything to do with health and wellness or affordaability. Have you read it? I have! It took me almost four months to get through that almost two thousand pages of regulatory and enforcable drivel. I did get a headache but also a bitter bile in my throat over the goals of this now mandatory law. Enough said on on this Nazi (National Socialist) inspired travesty.
We live in undeniably the most corrupt state in the Union. Led by Chicago political thugs that have wormed their way all the way to the White House to levy their type of indoctrination and deception on the rest of the country.
Whew.... enough for now.

Emily,
I am afraid that you are the one that just doesn't get it. The point isn't guns, bullets, cigarettes, healthy living, or organic foods. The point is TAXES!!!
If and when cigarettes are no longer smoked, where will the government get the money to replace those taxes?
If guns and bullets are taxed to the point where nobody buys them, how do you replace those taxes?
Wouldn't it make more sense to have a budget that is balanced instead of continually raising taxes?
If you think that Obamacare will lower your insurance premium, I think you are in for a rude awakening. Remember, the same people that are once again raising taxes to support the county (the government) are now going to try to run healthcare.
Can you tell me one area run by the government that doesn't bleed money and is run with an eye towards efficiency or saving money?

Emily- When a person is compelled to give up aportion of their honest labor to pay the benefits of another that is either unwilling or too lazy to take rssponsibility for themselves, enforced at the point of a gun is tyranny and slavery. I am a very charitable person but it can only go so far. I only have so much and taking care of myself and family is priority one. I served this country for over a decade on active duty. Served at an unpopular time and was dishonored when I returned from Vietnam by those people that I thought were my friends. Now I look at my beloved country and it makes me sad to see the founding principals that made us great being swindled by power brokers and politicians. The government is not the solution to the ills of today. Responsibility for one's self and respect for fellow citizens is necessary. The Greatest generation proclaimed, what can I do for my country, my America? Today it is sad that all I see is, Screw you, what's in it for me!
Seeing this, I am reminded of one hot early morning firefight near Quang Tri, I was tending to a buddy, holding my shirt and belt over the stump where his leg had been while he bled to death screaming for his mother. Then I see the Occupy movement and the the leftist progressives that all they want is more and someone else to pay for it. Seriously brings tears to my eyes.

Sorry, I shouldn't have gotten so emotional, MJ

Neither myself or my wife smoke or drink. I don't hold it against those that do. I just hope they wouldn't. There are alot of bad habits and they vary from vice to vice in their effacacy. I am old, and I wouldn't want to see what happens to future generations of Americans if there is to be any. We are at a time where the America we know and the Nationality we have earned could be at an end. We are on the verge of spending The United States into extinction.

Emily- I have had the opportunity to do battle with a insurance company and the Federal Govt. at the same time. At age 51 I suffered a stroke and I had an aweful time them to cover treatment but I managed to get that resolved. It took over a year. I have been unable to return to my former employment due to complications from stroke. I attempted to get coverage under Social Security but was refused. I went to court with an attorney in tow, three seperate times and was denied. Because I have been responsible and ambitious I was providing for retirement on my own. I saved and invested for over 20 years and was told that I didn't require any assistance from Social Security. I figured that because my ethnicity did not fit the profile I was not eligible to participate in a program I had paid for. Had I not taken the responsibility to privatize my retirement at an early age I would be on a street corner some place with a tin cup and some pencils.I am alot better now but it has taken ten years but stroke is an insideous affliction. Many other things are affected some humorous and others .... not so much. You have to filter such things through the gause of mirth otherwise, you would break down and cry, thus ruining one's cowboy macho image.

Lots of clichés and lies in this discussion wow! Oh by the way, Switzerland has one of the best health care system in the World. Last time I checked, Switzerland was far from being a communist country. Au contraire. No system is perfect of course .
Election s coming up, Go Obama go. Romney can only bring turmoil, less freedom in many areas and more hard time for the middle class

MAD JOHNNY here u are
voter obstruction, suppression,purges of students, vet's, disabled, throwing registered voting lists in dumpsters, throwing seniors,minorities of the rolls ,cutting back early voting and registration, buying up manufacturing and ownership of election machines and and now intimidation, coercion blackmailing workers and reprisals by NAZI-real Natl socialists KOCH-BAIN scum who crate hi tech American jobs and RELOCATE and or create them in the COMMIE PEOPLES PARADISE of Red China,This is your version and HOPE for freedom?
up yers and yer MAGIC DRAWERS and yer HEROIN HILLBILLY lunatics aka T -PARTY traitors still trying to sketch yer insanity to include more than the MURKANS who are beyond stupid into a 51 % of America, this isn't FLORIDA or ALA where stupid MURKANS eat this VAMPIRE COMMIE pablum of the VAMPIRE COMMIE with his seeing eye DOG trusts who hides money in the Caymans, Luxembourg and Switz for his and the robbers of 18 TRILLION in mom-pop pensions this is a real degradation of economic justice liberty and of the constitution.
Had the AG of the US Tried the 001% banksters and hedge fund mgrs and after the verdict sent to a GITMO or MARION hi tech facility which is what happened the last time they gamed the system in the 20's the local DEMOPUB looters WOULD NOT be getting away with these taxes on everything they dream of there would no need nor would this criminal be running for any office outside of a RED ARMY brothel

hey MADMAN JOHNNY what did u do in the War? since u are so pro colonialism u must have a resume full of OPERATIONS in the wars for DRUGS-TERROR ZIONIST JEWS or were u a CHENEY log cabin hero DUBYA deserter or are u a Mormon book OF JOY Binder Holder?
Goddess or Queen MOMMY said" Mormon missionary work is just like war"
Why do the LDS insist on sending these brave missionary's to PARIS?
TAG the tough guy missed IRAQ and the Hindu KUSH while daddy during VIETNAM was pictured on Omaha 20 YEARS AFTER THE WAR with a love message to the goddess. Now the BANKSTERS get their socialism and TAG'S is given by TWIT A pvt equity firm filled with MEDICARE rip offs like the scooter store and sun capital partners and lots of firms under investigation by the Fed are linked to TWIT-and TAG they almost single handily are the reason along with BANKSTER SOCIALISM why all governments are cash starved aka BAIN accounting schemes that not only avoids and dodge taxes they ob the healthcare system putting a bigger burden on the tax payers and we get to read yer outhouse.
reasons on colonialism.
TWIT is going around u din't build it ' now we know the COMMIES DID moron!

BUTCH you are a tireless champion advocate of your agenda.. No one can say you are not passionate

I wish someone, anyone, would provide the proof that the government creates jobs that actually benefit the country as a whole. It takes tax dollars to pay for these jobs, hence taxes go up. So much has been said about "fair share". How is it that some folks pay absolutely 0 dollars in taxes and get refunds? Is that a fair share? Just because someone makes a bunch of money doesn't mean they should support a bunch of people that choose to be unemployed. I am NOT talking about those who try and can't find work. I am NOT talking about those who are unable to work. I am NOT talking about those who bust their asses and still can't make ends meet. I am talking about those who live off the system. I am talking about those college grads that can't find work in their field of study, like 16th Century English Poetry, philosophy in general etc. Not slamming the fields of study, but wondering what they thought they might be doing with the degree once they got it. It is surely easier to blame the guy with money for your own problems than it is to face facts. Never has a major tax increase on any 'class' resulted in additional revenues to the federal treasury.

What is the ultimate end when government keeps taking more and more? It is NOT a bottomless hole of money. The government can't just print more. Sooner or later they have to pay back debt. Where does it end?

It ends when IL is turned into WI... Because its not the welfare recipient bankrupting the system... Its about the city county and state workers having a free rides,multiple pensions, engaging in criminal contracts etc etc etc... The problem is crony nepotism with tribal roots...
Its not the guy with the money Its the guy that drinks Pabst and drives a 2003 ford Taurus making 100k+ a year Its drew Peterson collecting 300k a year in jail ... Its corporations using mafia applications ...
If one understands "money" principles in regards to federal banking this bottomless pit of money = the system of lending in place that without debt there would be no money... Sounds like Abbott and Costello it is ...
Early voting starts tomorrow.... Vote for Romney is a vote against unions state and county jobs... A vote to streamline ....
A vote for Obama is a vote for Hope, Future,and Social change.. Its about lifestyles....

The redistribution of the wealth is going to happen ...I been hearing from both sides committees and groups That the old simply do not spend as much as the young thus for a host of reasons the wealth must be taken from them.... dumbing the point but its there

WILLARD said" he will create 12 million jobs" that was before he said government does not create jobs, he was right on both counts more than 12 million jobs have been created by BAIN and his fellow travelers in RED COMMUNIST CHINA,
Now in America and Murka not much is going on because the TAX dodgers and traitors like TWIT and JACK WELCH the parasites and their friends are sitting on 5 trillion in investments and can longer wash it in MACAU,
NOW REMEMBER most of the jobs in CHINA were non union many RED STATE and pablum eating low info voters who still drink the Kool Aid, the highest paying jobs TWIT created in RED CHINA PAYS $1.19 per hr ave 99 cents it looks like the end is near for a lot of us Dave, they closed 50,000 factory's and sent the low and hi tech jobs to the RED ARMY, It is in yer economic interest and every American that ROBME be sent packing and we get into the corp are people my friend BS it only can happen if he is sent back to his CAYMAN or RED CHINA HOMELAND, a NEW non corporate AG would help a lot also,

Hi Ya, Butchie... It is refreshing to have such a colorful descriptive dialog. I do enjoy getting on the last nerve of a Left-leaning progressive and witnessing a meltdown. You touched on so many points, I actually lost count. However I did count just how many made sense and how many actual informed rational views... and that would be none. When you regain your composure and decide on one specific item that you think you know enough about please let me know. I will be more than happy to discuss it rationally without the unnecessary blathering. K?

MAD Johnny start with wiping the butt with the constitution and other events from Palm Beach Cnty Fla and then Solamere Capital partners where the BAIN VOTING MACHINES will place as important part of the election as the Medicare robber governor of Fla and where all the magic underwear family have a interest including off shore banking networks that resemble BCCI OPERATIONS THAT U MUST BE FAMILIAR WITH?
And if time permits the austerity of fear and issues never talked about by the chicken poop candidates and corporate media .

Willard tonight actually reduced the number of jobs he said the GOVERNMENT does not crate to 9 MILLION, TO Johnny and the T PARTY that makes perfectly good sense!

mad johnny how come a VIET vet has no outrage on the treatment and care of his buddies at Reed and other military and VA INSTITUTIONS during the deserters 8 years in office had a DEM VET from PA not brought it to light Robme last night would have taken ownership on the outrage he alone is responsible for the practice of stopping the neglect and worse.
I myself had similar experiences with SSI for a family member and feel your pain now on the constitution I assume u are talking about the USA not CSA?
Last night ROBME was running against WOODROW WILSON he and u all are incredible potted plants for looters robbers and traitors not NAZI or Socialist BUT COMMIE-NAZI and TPARTY!

i HEARD FROM TWIT his REAL economic plan he told us about the incredible potential for LATIN AMERICA WOW going back to the Contra and Arena killers days they are going to do the low tech 50cents a hr in SALVADOR-PANAMA NICAR while doing the HIGH TECH in the peoples paradise where they pay a ave of 99 cents a hr

Butchie, my friend, don't blow a gasket. You would ruin my entertainment value on this site. I truely enjoy trying to digest the convoluted rhetoric you post. I love a good challenge. Besides I wasn't a draft dodger, I enlisted and served on active duty for twelve years, I fought to defend your privledge to sit here and cal me names. Getting shot ruins your whole day. but I fooled them, I survived. Even if those that I thought were my friends, back here at home, would rather that I died over there. Recently I've had the pleasure of being chastized by a Liberal O supporter in a public meeting that I was too bad that I came back from Vietnam and that I am a racist to boot. I just smiled at her and told her, "God looks after people like you."

Sure nuff mad man in your day the celebrants were in PANAMA-COSTA RICO and the basement at 1600, sell that sh*t on fighting for my right to the low info morons,
You may not have known it at the time u fought for AIR AMERICA, BCCI,GOLAN Hts MACAU & Juarez cartels,and would evolve to the Contras -Iranians guns for drugs Al Secord Albert Hakim Ollie North and the entire BCCI Caribbean banking network now being utilized by the ROBME FAMILY
i am pleased u survived despite the memory losses, don't feel bad about being a racist noone in the TPARTY DOES nor do they remember any VET unless it is a photo op, The T PARTY confab forgot us again as did the GUY who wants to recommission the MISSOURI or the WWI 7TH Cav! If i was a praying Christian u would be in them it is unfortunate that you have given so much and lost so much cognitive ability where is the bullet lodged or is it PTSD ?
Why is it that the guy who has done more for Vet's than all the deserters and draft dodgers get ambushed in the draft dodger Hill billy heroin media aka clear channel (BAIN AGAIN) cuz he is too uppity! I remember early Iraq where GI scrounged for scrap for their Bradley and the Kevlar
The CEO of Pfizer and DOD telling the Marine u go to war with the Army u have not what u have U agree with that ? I also remember the 9 BILLION that is still missing after landing on a BLACKWATER C-130' and the KBR Filipino's hired as electricians who electrocuted Marines in the shower.

mad man u have selective memory lapses for a good reason as do ROBME and the hypocrisy of the the entire bunch of misfits the Christian coalition-Catholic Church predators protected by Vatican Oligarchs who are mute on the slaughter of innocent nuns and Archbishops and the traitors in congress who out our INTELL networks who expose the hypocrisy and lies and send the MURKAN low info cannon fodder to loot and enrich themselves which in return creates the Extremist Jews Buddhists and Muslims for the benefit of the Empire along with our loonies, your defense of the attack on Ft Sumter is the same as TOJO's on Pearl Harbor!
Your must be a separatist and wannabe robber baron master wannabe who believes what the gamers preach because it is a throwback to COLONIALISM, which is far beyond or intelligent to be a Rovian or Ralph Reed misinformation potted plant. i suppose u can make a case for the Mormon and Jehovah cults if it was based on taxation and not the weird crap they believe and practice,

Madman is there a WAR on WOMEN is the Empire running out of cannon fodder?
Do u think the HOOSIER low info freaking crazy MURKANS are going to send to the US SENATE a TPARTY freak Murdock as bad and possible worse than SANATORIUM and HERMAN CAIN, Murdock wants to be a decider a lawmaker who thinks RAPE is a gift from God it is life! Do we empty the prisons and put the murders on the street to join the TPARTY?
THIS IS WHAT THEY DID IN FLORIDA with the BOAT PEOPLE the GOP voter registrations are filled with more criminals sexual predators and pedophiles besides their Christian hypocrisy beliefs!

what a deal u have to be able to think and not drink the Kool Aid

madman went to war believing in the American dream he no doubt had believed in the flag waving and never wavered now in his old age he defends NEO CON Zionists looters draft dodgers and 14 lawmakers led by lyin Ryan and ERIC CANTOR the AIPAC rep in conspiring with NEWT and half a dozen SENATORS to destroy the American economy dreamed up by the GOP BOSS FRANK LUNTZ and Hooverize the BLACK GUY,
The economy was hemorrhaging 750,000 jobs a month at the time and now is on the rebound despite the treason which pisses off all these draft and tax dodgers which REPRESENTS 100% of the treasonous GOP-TPARTY.
The scum bag SENATOR of GEORGIA who swift boated a American hero Max CLELLAND like Tammy Duckworth lost 3 limbs in Vietnam has joined the most corrupt TPARTY CONGRESSMEN Daryl Issa in politicizing the deaths of Americans and outing the brave LIBYANS working for us this is beyond any pretense of decency but was done first by the champion looter of all time and grand dad of a child with 2 moms while the rest of the wing nuts are praying and protesting against abortion and homosexuals the hypocrisy is endless, their televangelists who have entire shows dedicated to anti homo usually get busted with male hookers, so what's the point well it is dog-pony shows and Kabuki theater not understandable to light weights who can't figure out what this represents, it is called who appoints the retiring justices to the Supreme Court the prize! right madman!

Butchie! The venom doth spew! How do you sleep at night? Or do nightmares and delusion consume your rest? I am concerned that it must really suck to be you. Please. that is not an insult merely an observation. Such torment can cause one to loose all sense of humor. So serious and so bitter is a sad way to spen your life. Please get a grip?

Well folks,
I have been approached and I accepted! So I bid you all, Fair Winds and Following Seas, God's speed.... I am Going Gault... adeu

~~~~~P'FFFFFT****** !

Just when I thought they were going to mount a challenge they say" p'ffffffffff**** WELL MADMAN I REALLY WAS JUST WARMING UP THE ENTERTAINMENT and u do this to me!!! I was READY to go to my Jimmy Swaggart, Larry Craig, Dave Vittters, and the morality of the GOP-TPARTY transsexuals and drugsters of God's party followed by a tutorial on why we should be enraged at and vote for Obama rather than a return to the slavery and robber baron looters is no contest.